Reaction To The Scandalous Syria Debate

Demonstrators On The Streets Of Britain

Demonstrators On The Streets Of Britain

In the beginning I was skeptical about us taking any action in Syria (See last post), but have rapidly become convinced that it is the only way to stop the proliferation of chemical attacks on civilians by the Assad regime, and give a warning to other dictators across the world who may wish to use them.

Having become convinced, and as an educated Brit, I have to hang my head in shame at the attitude of the Labour Party and the general public to the crisis in Syria. All the talk is of David Cameron getting beaten by Ed Miliband in the Commons debate this last week because Miliband changed his mind on the day of the debate, after first agreeing that action should be contemplated. At no time previously did Cameron say we were going to ‘march into war’ against the Assad regime, only that we should be prepared to back the Americans in a targeted missile strike against specific government forces military installations.

This Is The Joker Labour Want Us To Vote For In The Next Election

This Is The Joker Labour Want Us To Vote For In The Next Election

However, clever political manoeuvring by Miliband, who was afraid of his own party and losing electorate backing, made a jump to the other side and scuppered the whole plan. His whole stance has been to curry favour with the electorate, and silence his many critics within his own party. But there again, I suppose we should expect nothing less from this spineless, slimy, individual who leads a political party that successfully brought the country to its knees, shafted the people, and sabotaged its traditions and way of life.

I have spent considerable time reading comments on the various stories as they appeared on Yahoo, and the one thing that surprised me more than anything is that the greater majority of the writers don’t care what is happening there and just want to ‘pull up the drawbridge’. It’s not our problem” – “We should stay out of it” – “Why should our boys be killed in a foreign country?” There are almost 2000 comments on these articles and more then 90% of them are against involvement.

Cruise Missile Submarine Launch

Cruise Missile Submarine Launch

This is despite the fact that at no time was it planned for troops to be involved as the response would be made by cruise missiles from the Americans aimed at strategic military bases of the Assad forces. In short, there would be no ‘boots on the ground’ to use an American expression. But still hundreds are bleating about ‘Our boys getting killed over there’!

It is so easy to look at TV images and newspaper photographs of people suffering and not want to get involved, but all the pictures in the world will not accurately describe the suffering. If I had my way I would ship a few thousand of these dissenters, including Miliband and his acolytes, over to Syria and let then see first hand the results of a chemical weapons attack, and what it does to the human body. I would have them see first-hand the pain and suffering of the ordinary Syrian people in this civil war, and I guarantee you 90% of them would be throwing up at the sight of it and would change their minds in a heartbeat.

The Results Of Sarin Gas Use

The Results Of Sarin Gas Use

Chemical weapons are the most heinous of weapons and assault the innocent as well as military forces, but they were deliberately unleashed on civilians who had nothing to do with the fighting, many of them children I might add. It is a horrible way to die, the terror of which can scarcely be imagined, and there is nothing you can do to stop it unless you have a gas mask, and civilians don’t. The release of this weapon was a calculated and extremely callous act which must be answered – by someone.

It is very clear from the last two years that the other Arab nations are not prepared to stick their necks out and deal with Assad, so it is left up to those nations still left in the world that have a conscience. As usual this is America, Great Britain, and this time France. However, the British people have made it clear they do not want to ‘go to war’, not understanding that we would not be, the attack is nothing more than a ‘shot across the bows’ for Assad, warning him that the use of weapons of mass destruction will not be tolerated in the world. No-one, I repeat no-one has said a word about ‘going to war’ with Syria, that is all in the mind of these poor misguided creatures who think we should do nothing.

If nothing is done to warn Assad against using these weapons, he will continue to use them because he knows he can, and no-one will stop him. It would be foolish for the world to turn its back on what has happened in Syria over the past two weeks, for then at the first sign of trouble, every dictator in the world will start using them if they think it’s necessary.

Agent Orange - An Unprotected Soldier Sprays Agent Orange On Foliage

Agent Orange – An Unprotected Soldier Sprays Agent Orange On Foliage

Many of the commentators began bleating about the American’s using agent Orange during the Vietnam war in which thousands died. They called it a chemical attack without really knowing that it was defoliant used to strip the trees of their leaves so the Communists could not hide under them. When it was first used nobody had any idea of the terrible effects it had on the human body until it was too late. I have seen photo’s of American soldiers on the ground during a spraying and they all got covered in  it. Is the American government so callous that it would kill its own men too? I doubt it. This to me makes it clear that the product was put into service far too quickly without its full effects being known. It was a mistake, and a big one, but I am sure it was not intentional. But the uninformed idiots that occupy Britain these days, most of whom were not even born then, are calling it a chemical attack, when to all intents the only casualties were the trees. It was only later that its disastrous effects on the human body became apparent.

One disillusioned man was even convinced that the whole Arab Spring, including Syria, is a plot by western governments and their “Oligarchs” to take over all the Middle East countries and so get their hands on the oil. He even went further to say that 9/11 was ‘arranged by these same people to stoke up anti-Arab feeling’. How can any sane person with an iota of common sense think such a thing. Its too bizarre for words.

On a different level, it is no surprise that Putin has spoken out about the proposed action, saying in effect that the whole story is western propaganda and there was no gas attack. This comes as no surprise to me, for the Russians have steadfastly vetoed any plans to stop the needless bloodshed in Syria. The reason behind this is that Russia is making billions from trade with Assad, and more importantly, they wish to protect the only naval seaport they have outside the Black Sea in Tartus, Syria.

Russian Warships In The Harbour

Russian Warships In Tartus Harbour

Careful examination of the northern part of the port using Google Earth reveals the truth of this, including one photograph. Putin does not want Assad to be replaced because the Russians know they will lose this port, which will push their Navy back into the Black Sea with its narrow entrance controlled by Turkey. Reason enough to back Assad to the hilt. This is on top of the billions of dollars they make in trade with Syria, including military hardware. China is the other UN member to use its veto, and while they have no military interest in Syria, they do have billions of dollars in trade with Syria.

Arab League In Session

Arab League In Session

Some have argued that the Arab League should shoulder the load of sorting out the problems in Syria, and I agree 100%. It is an Arab problem and they are best suited to solving it, but I think they are afraid they may incur the wrath of the terrorists groups who are distinctly active in the conflict. I have said in previous posts on the subject that I believe they are deeply involved, as they were in Tunisia, Libya and Egypt. Their one goal is to see the whole Arab world, and then the rest of us, as a Muslim State with their barbarous Sharia Law. They will not stop fermenting trouble until they get it.

But that is a side issue because the main thrust of the whole subject is that no-one, I repeat, no-one should be allowed to use chemical weapons with impunity because this will set a precedent for every tin-pot dictator to do as they please.

A Man With A Conscience And A Big Problem

A Man With A Conscience And A Big Problem

The latest news indicates that Barak Obama will now go to Congress to sanction the planned actions against Assad. The result of this may be anticipated by some, but the outcome is by no means certain.

UN Inspector On The Ground

UN Inspector On The Ground

Many, including Labour, are saying we should wait for the outcome of the UN investigation before deciding on action. Many are convinced that it is all a rebel plot to deceive us. What most people fail to realize is that the rebels do not have any aircraft or pilots, and more importantly, no chemical weapons as these are all in the hands of Assad forces. So I fail to see how they could launch such an attack. I am willing to admit that I may be wrong, but as things stand at the moment that is the only conclusion that can be drawn.

The one thing that is clear is that the UN inspectors will make no attempt to provide information on this issue, for their mandate has been purely to establish if chemical weapons were used and nothing more. So even when they bring out their report, which will be delayed by several weeks, it will not change the situation one iota. It will still be a judgement call by western nations.

Areas Of Recent Gas Attacks

Areas Of Recent Gas Attacks

Do not forget that this last attack was by no means the first as there have been many preceding it in other areas. To me it looks like Assad was ‘testing the waters’ with these earlier attacks just to see what the international reaction would be. He got away with them without a big fuss and so decided to go in for the big one. I am sure that if the international community do not react strongly to this latest outrage he will do it again and again.

Much has been said about the West aiding the rebels, but that also is untrue. Any strike by the coalition would not be giving significant aid to them because there would be very few targets attacked. It has never been the intention to ‘rain down’ missiles all over Syria, but merely to take out a small number of selected sites to show Assad that he cannot get away with using WMD on his own people.

A Victim - What If This Was Your Child?

A Victim – What If This Was Your Child?

Commentators have also blamed the rebels for the tragic napalm attack on a school that took place last week after the gas attack. Many children and adults were literally incinerated alive in this attack and many more received up to 90% burns over their bodies. Pictures of the victims abounded on the internet, but still people blamed the rebels, despite them having no means of delivery.

Napalm Cannister

Napalm cannister

Unlike phosphorous, napalm cannot be fired from guns but must be dropped by aircraft. This is because by their very nature, napalm weapons must have very thin walls so as to burst on impact and spread their contents as far as possible, and to try and fire them from an artillery piece would mean they explode in the barrel. For this reason they have to be dropped by aircraft, which the rebels don’t have. From the many comments on this story it is clear that the general public is making up its mind in total ignorance of any knowledge on the subject.

Sadly, this is a dangerous precedent, for it means there will be no censure of Assad outside of useless rhetoric, which he will take as a ‘licence to kill’ and continue the slaughter of innocents. Most people seem to be content to leave it all to the UN, but as we have learned over the years, the UN is a ‘toothless tiger’ that has betrayed its original ideals for the last 70 years. Winston Churchill will be spinning in his grave at the sorry mess it has become.

Roy.

Stop Press: The Express newspaper is currently carrying a headline that says: Senior Syrian military chiefs tell captain: fire chemicals or be shot. While I am sure many of the disbelievers  among the public decry this as government propaganda, I doubt it. According to a high ranking RAF officer:  “The commander of the artillery battery told the regional commander that he would not comply and there was a heated exchange. He was told in direct language that unless the order was carried out, he would be shot. A total of 27 chemical artillery shells were then fired at the suburb in a 14-minute period.”

The conversation was monitored and recorded by British officers based at the remote mountain-top RAF Troodos Signals Intelligence listening post in Cyprus and within minutes details of the conversation had been relayed to GCHQ, Whitehall and the Pentagon according to the Express. I have been to Cyprus with the RAF and I can assure readers that such a monitoring station exists.

This is just another nail in the coffin of Assad for Miliband and all the millions of doubters that are crying for us to stay out of it. The evidence is piling up and there are thousands of such pieces of information that have been gathered on the subject. Pretty soon Miliband, the Labour Party, as well as all the doubters will have a mass of egg on their faces.

Roy.

2 Responses to “Reaction To The Scandalous Syria Debate”

  1. One of the biggest problems I have with your position is that you seem to think any other nation is right to take active sides in another’s civil war.
    Not even one percent of the deaths and suffering of the Syrian Civil War can be traced to chemical weapons but that’s the line that bothers you and others.
    Also in regards the unlinked Express article. This runs contrary to the widely covered report of high command being very unaware of what happened. That comes from US intel intercept of internal Syrian telephone calls. Someone is lying? Then again there is the less widely available report from sources interviewing folks in Ghouta that looks at the Saudis distributing unmarked shells to the rebels and that accidental release occurred during transport. (Mint Press)
    Don’t get me wrong I don’t like Assad but the opposition isn’t pure by any stretch and further there are 3 or 4 proxy wars afoot over there that the masses and many of the policy types seem ignorant to.

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    • Hi Alfie, nice to have you back as always.
      Please give me a chance to set the record straight. First of all, I do not think nations have the right to interfere in other people’s civil wars, in fact I agree with many others that we should stay out of it. The rebel side is rife with al Quada militants and others who to my mind, have started this whole business not only in Syria but also Tunisia, Libya and Egypt. I do not believe they will stop until they are able to take complete control of a country, and once they have consolidated their position after the takeover, they will begin with the next in line. It is a clever tactic, for most of the fighting is done for them by those they have convinced to fight for ‘freedom’.

      Further, I am well aware of the relationship between overall deaths and those caused by chemical weapons, and I agree that they are miniscule. I, like everyone else, can only judge by what we read in the papers or see on the TV news. I watch mostly al Jazeera for news on the Middle East which seems a little less biased than some western networks. When it comes to gathering intelligence, as we all know, the methods employed by governments to gather it are wide and varied, and rightly shrouded in secrecy. If you are interested, the link for the Daily Mail story is as follows: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/425981/Senior-Syrian-military-chiefs-tell-captain-fire-chemicals-or-be-shot

      From other press reports it is clear that the Saudi’s are backing the rebels and want them to win for they are reported to have said so. In the same vein, Iran is backing Assad. There can be little doubt that this ‘backing’ depends on which side of the Arab divide you are i.e. Sunni or Shi’ite. That however is for them to decide.

      My only concern in this whole affair is that whoever is using chemical warfare must be stopped and not allowed to get away with it. For as I said in the post, if Assad, or the rebels get away with it this time they will use it again and again. Not only that, it will send a signal to every tin-pot dictator on the planet that they can use it and no-one cares. My only reason for action in Syria is the same as that reported by the US and UK governments – to stop the use of chemical weapons.

      Best Regards,
      Roy

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